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nomoreacneplease	Acupuncture's working	Lead	[-]
Posts: 23 (03/20/04 07:01:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I've been having weekly acupuncture treatments for 7 weeks now and it's the only thing other than Dianette contraceptive pill that's worked for me. I've had acne now for 15 years, but at last, I've found a treatment that gets to the root cause of the problem, rather than suppressing the symptoms. The acupuncture I have is called Five Element, which means it treats the whole body, mind and spirit as one entity, not as separate, by balancing out the five essential elements present in everyone - Fire, Water, Metal, Earth and Wood. I know, at first you might think it sounds like bulls**t and trust me I was sceptical at first, but it's truly awesome. A friend has been having it for 3 months and has worked for her too. All I'm trying to say is, piling on the creams, lotions, potions and taking heaps of antibiotics and agressive drugs like (Ro)Accutane is never going to treat your acne, it's just going to suppress the symptoms. The first couple of weeks of treatment were pretty harsh, and brought out some really horrible emotions and feelings, and a breakout or two, but they all disappeared with the next treatment. I now feel incredible, happier than in a long time about my skin, and with renewed sense of confidence and self-esteem. I've also lost weight and my hormones feel way more balanced - PMS and pre-menstrual bloating are also much improved. So give it a go. It's not cheap but if you think about the amount of money you have spent and will spend in the future on lotions, potions, vitamins etc and the difference acupuncture will make, you'll realise it's absolutely worth it. There, that's my bit of advice. Good luck I've always put my acne down to hormonal imbalance,
Unregistered(d)	RE	#1	[-]
Posts: 0 (03/21/04 17:36:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi there i am considering your treatment you have tried. First if u dont mind can you answer some questions i have. 1) What type of acne do you have?? Cystic? Severe? 2)Are there different types of accupuncturists??? That treat problems in different ways??? 3) When you say it cost a lot ??? How much per session say?? I would really apreciate your feedback Thanks in advance
nomoreacneplease	acpuncture	#2	[-]
Posts: 23 (03/23/04 05:11:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi, thanks for your post. I guess you'd say my acne is moderate to severe, cystic along my jaw line and cheeks and with deep red marks elsewhere. I think 5 Element acupuncture is slightly different to Traditional although I'm not entirely clear on the difference to be honest. 5 Element seeks to treat the whole body and not the ailment in isolation. As I understand it, 5 element works by re-balancing whichever of the 5 elements (wood, fire, earth, metal and water) is out of sync. So for me, my metal element is unbalanced - metal is the element of the lungs and skin - so my acupuncturist has been working to rebalance my metal. I'm not sure if Traditional works along the lines of elements or not, but I do know that Traditional seeks to address the 'unbalance' of chi in the body that is causing the ailment. As for cost, I'm in the UK and it cost me 60 pounds for the diagnosis and consultation (which lasted 2 hours) and 40 pounds for every treatment after that. I think that in the UK it costs between 30 and 60 pounds per treatment. I hope that this answers your questions. I am having my treatment at the clinic of the School of Five Element Acupuncture in London - www.sofea.co.uk so check out their website for more info, or look at the British Acupuncture Council website at www.acupuncture.org.uk/ Please do ask if you have any more questions about my experience. The one I would say is that it can take a while to have an effect, depending how long you've had acne/the ailment, but each individual is different and treated differently.
Unregistered(d)	Thanks for reply	#3	[-]
Posts: 0 (03/27/04 12:16:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Thanks for your reply! Im actually from London so if i do go i can go to the same one A few more querys i have... Did you actually go on Roaccutane by the way?? How old are you?? How long have you suffered from Acne? How do they go about doing a diagnosis??? Thanks in advance for your reply
nomoreacneplease	acupuncture	#4	[-]
Posts: 23 (03/29/04 03:23:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi there, Ok, I'm 25, have never been on Roaccutane because it sounds hideous. I've had acne since I was 10 (yes I know, I started early) but it only got really bad when i was about 15/16 when I went on the pill. Stayed on the pill for 6 years altogether but came off it twice before coming off it completely - each time I broke out really badly. As for the diagnosis, my practitioner asked me a loads of questions, like what my diet's like, my lifestyle, what I like and don't like, other medical history, my family, relationships, my life-history pretty much, then she took lots of pulses all over. it's a very intense and you feel like you've been to a therapist or something afterwards. Anyway from what you tell her she then makes a diagnosis as to which element is out of sync and works to get it back into balance. The first actual needling treatment I had was a 'clearing' treatment that works to get all the negative crap out of you, and it felt very weird afterwards, very light-headed and achey, but in a good way, like I was being cleansed. Check out the sofea.co.uk website anyway and see what you think. anymore questions please ask!
gemella	Re: acupuncture	#5	[-]
Posts: 10 (03/31/04 04:59:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i've thought about having accupunture before but i'm terrified of needles,and the thought of it makes me queasy, whats it like?
nomoreacneplease	Acupuncture	#6	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/01/04 01:03:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey I'm not gonna lie to you, it hurts! But literally for a split second when the needle comes out, and it's more of a dull ache than pain. The benefits by far weigh out any 'pain'. I can honestly say that I don't feel the needles going in, nor can you seem them as you're lying down usually. It's just when they come out that you feel an electric shock kind of feeling, like all your energy's being stirred up. I found that after the first couple of weeks of treatment my emotions and feelings went crazy - everything was stirred up and brought to the surface and I cried consistently for about 5 days, but it's all part of the 'clearing' and I persevered and now feel fantastic I think someone else posted that acupuncture helps you deal with the misery of acne as well as clearing it physically and I absolutely agree - it was taking over my life and making me very depressed, but I now feel so much better about myself, I'm not as paranoid that people are staring at me in disgust, and I actually don't care what other people think. I can't recommend acupuncture highly enough - it gets to the root cause of the problem rather than suppressing the symptoms with drugs. Go for it!!
Jedi	nomoreacneplease	#7	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/03/04 08:41:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks for your post - its so good to hear you are feeling better and your acne is clearing up! Just a question - With the needles, where do they put them? I mean - one girl had this done and she had them inserted around her liver area because she had a congested liver, is this the same with you? Do they actually put needles in your face, and acne ? Can I also ask your therapists name, I dont live too far fro mlondon so could get an appointment with the same person as you - that way I know they have some experience with acne
nomoreacneplease	Jedi	#8	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/04/04 08:06:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi, thanks for your post, I've never had needles in my face, she usually puts them in my arms, hands, feet and legs but she's also put them in my chest, shoulders and she's done a couple of 'clearing' treatments on my back and stomach. I don't really understand how it works, but my acupuncturist explained to me that it doesn't actually matter which acu point you put the needles in, as long as it's on the meridian (which run throughout the body) of whichever element you're trying to balance/treat. Because Five Element acupuncture works by treating the whole body and not the disease/ailment/condition in isolation, putting the needles in, say, the liver area isn't necessary for it to work - you could you put them somehwere else but on the same meridian as the liver. For me the clearing treatments, feet and wrists has made most difference but it's totally individual. My practitioner's name is Maureen McCann and she works at the School of Five Element Acupunture in Camden, north London. The website address is www.sofea.co.uk It would be much easier and cheaper for you though to get someone who lives close to where you live because you'll probably go once a week for a few weeks and commuting to London might not be that convenient for you. So I'd check out the British Acupuncture Council and do a search for a practitioner near you. www.acupuncture.org.uk/ Good luck!
Jedi	:)	#9	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/04/04 11:43:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you for your post! There is actually an accupunture clinic down the road from me, but I want to check out this five element thing as it sounds interesting. Just one more question - how many sessions have you had ? How many in total are you going to have? And during the initial consultation - does she give you a treatment then too? Thats all the questions I have, I promise Thanks again x
nomoreacneplease	Keep them coming!	#10	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/04/04 23:54:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey ask as many questions as you want, seriously, I want to spread the word about acupuncture!! I've had 8 treatments and the initial diagnosis/consultation, at weekly intervals. As for how many I'm going to have, well I really don't know. My practitioner has said we'll talk about spreading the treatments out over 2 weeks after next week's treatment so I'll probably spread them out gradually to six-weekly intervals and see how we go. She didn't do a treatment on the initial diagnosis, just listened to me for 2 hours and took lots of pulses etc and on the second time I went she did a clearing treatment. Good luck and if you have any more questions just ask!
Jedi	Thank yoU!	#11	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/08/04 02:42:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thank you so much for your post and being so happy to answer the questions I have made an appointment with Marion next week.. I am quite excited! She said she could probably do the 'clearing treatment' during my first visit. What is it like? Is it relaxing? Do you feel different afterwards? ooh I am soo excited! I cant wait She sounds so lovely.. I am a bit worried she wont think it is that bad as my skin has cleared a little recently (probably due to the detox I have been doing) but we'll see. How do you feel now, eight weeks after treatments? Do you feel better in your general wellbeing? I get quite bad depression sometimes, I wonder if it will help with that. She did ask who recommend her and I had to say 'someone of the internet' as I dont know your name!!
nomoreacneplease	You're welcome!	#12	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/08/04 07:18:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi Jedi I saw Maureen last night and she told me that someone from the 'internet thing' had contacted her and you were going in next week. I'm so pleased you're doing it, it's honestly fantastic. It took a while to get results (6 weeks maybe) but I'm looking much clearer and feel hugely better in my wellbeing, energy levels, steadier hormones, more confident etc. It's awesome! In fact I'm even thinking of starting the acupuncture course myself! The clearing treatment is kind of relaxing, the whole thing of lying down is relaxing though. Just try to stay relaxed when the needles come out, cos that's when it hurts (not massively, just like a short, sharp electric shock kind of feeling). One thing I would say is that I wanted instant results, and it doesn't deliver instant results, so be patient. Having said that it works on different people in different ways, there's no 'normal'. Another thing I'd say is that I felt quite spaced out for the first couple of weeks - and my hormones were all over the place. My energy was being stirred up and it toyed with my emotions for a while, but the next treatment sorted that out completely. Just tell Maureen everything about how you're feeling and what's happening in your life, no matter how irrelevant you might think it is. Good luck!! Let me know how it goes x
Jedi	Just had my first treatment!	#13	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/14/04 11:52:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey there! I just came back from my first treatment with Maureen, it seemed to go quite well. I don't feel any different yet, although a bit achey but I am not sure if that is related!? She decided to do the clearing treatment in the same session as the consultation which was cool! She did the pins in my back and in m y feet, and when she did the ones in my feet it was crazy, this mad electrcity went down my right side! So SOMETHING was going on!! I hope you dont mind but i just have a few questions..? Can I ask, how long have you had acne and how severe/what type? Just interested really Also - what kind of diet do you follow and have you made changes since starting acupuncture? Again I am just interested because my diet is not too great... Its wicked that you are interested in studying acupuncture, I am interested in complementary therapy and if this works for me I think i would definatley consider it! The whole 'energy' thing makes so much sense. I was also thinking - you might be interested in Qi Gong, if you havent heard of it its a form of Tai Chi and aims to balance out the body and the internal energy using movement and breathing, I know people have had a lot of success with it for many things. ANyway - isn't Maureen so kind and lovely!? I cant wait for my next treatment Please please keep me updated with your results, and if you like I will also Thanks again for everything! x
Jedi	Oops	#14	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/14/04 11:55:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Opps sorry I just noticed in your first post you said you had had it for 15 years! Wow it must be so great after all this time to find something that helps
blueeyedbia	*	#15	[-]
Posts: 143 (04/14/04 12:03:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks for a very interesting post nomoreacneplease. I've heard of accupuncture used before but then I don't hear follow-up stories. Your story just reasserts in my mind that everyone is different and must seek the treatment that is right for them. Congrats on clear skin an enjoy it
Jack Daneils 2k	Re: *	#16	[-]
Posts: 6 (04/14/04 14:00:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i have Body acne. do u think she will be able to work with me??? Since she cant put the needles in places where she might have done. Also do u think those needles can cause inflmation? thanks
nomoreacneplease	Acupuncture update	#17	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/14/04 23:39:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all Fantastic that you've had your first treatment Jedi and that you felt the crazy electricity!! I also felt very achey the next day, and I think I told you that my hormones went mad for a couple of weeks and my emotions were all over the place. I saw Maureen last night, straight after you I think!! It's only really started to make a visible difference in my skin in the last few treatments (last night's was number 10 I think) but I feel so much better all over and in terms of general health. Also my acne is definitely 'travelling down' my body - I have more on my chest and lower back and I think it's definitely 'passing out'. Chinese medicine believes that illnesses 'pass down' and that seems to be happening with me. As for my diet, I have been trying to cut out wheat and sugar, and cut right down on dairy, because I know from past detoxes I've done that they definitely help. I also drink at least 2 litres of water a day and I eat a lot of fruit, veg and fibre and fish at least once a week, usually more. I've cut down on the supplements I take because at one point I was taking about 20 a day and it was ridiculous, so I'm now on acidophilous, Udo's Oil capsules (contain EFAs), Vit B6, Zinc with Copper (always at night time) and cod liver oil with multivits. Last summer I did the Carol Vorderman detox which was fantastic - it's a 4 week thing that cuts out wheat, sugar, dairy, meat, caffeine and alcohol and worked a treat but was quite hard going. Definitely keep me updated with your treatment, I will too. Thanks for the tip about Qi Gong/Tai Chi, I've been thinking about finding a class for a while and I think you're right that it would compliment acupuncture well. Jack Daneils 2k - What do you mean by body acne? Do you have it on your back/chest? I have some left over acne there and have had needles in both areas. I've never had any inflammation from the needles. My therapist did a 'control' needle not on an acu point to check for skin reactions and I think it's pretty uncommon to get a reaction as the needles are so fine and sterile. I would highly recommend acupuncture over any harsh drug - it's the only thing to have made a difference to my skin and general health after 15 horrible years of acne. Most importantly my confidence and self esteem are a million times better. Phew that was a long post!! Good luck all and keep me posted with your progress Jedi. x
Jedi	...	#18	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/15/04 06:51:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	nomoreacneplease! Thank you SO SO SO much for your info and help.. it really reasurres me to know that you are seeing improvements from it. My skin has got drastically worse over the past few days..its hard to know why really. You say you had been on dianette - did you notice a big breakout when you came off it? i am wondering if it is because of that, I came of it in January but it seems like quite a while to only now get a breakout. Anyway I am rambling!! I was wondering, do you have an email where I could write to you as there is something i wanted to ask you, but not on here? Obviously if you are uncomfortable with that then I understand! x
nomoreacneplease	dianette	#19	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/15/04 08:00:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi, you're very welcome, Jedi! I just want everyone to know that they don't have to take hideous drugs to get rid of acne and that the drugs really don't work! Long term I mean. I definitely had a major breakout when i came off dianette but not really for about 6 months, I guess it takes a while before the pill gets out of your system. The breakout was vile, but I kind of anticipated that it would happen. As for my email, no problem (as long as everyone doesn't start sending me junk!) - it's tug@myway.com speak soon
Jedi	:(	#20	[-]
Posts: 321 (04/15/04 11:03:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh.. that might mean my skin will get worse then. Dianette never really improved my skin that much so I didnt anticipate a huge breakout, but it looks like it is happening right now! Its awful I am hoing the acpuncture will help just at the right time... I had crazy crazy dreams last night, I dont know if it was related to the acupuncture and all the 'negative energy' draining away, which is what maureen said would happen The theory in acupunture makes a lot of sense, i really hope to see results with it Anyway will send you a quick email! x

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